Building a company takes time, so finding the right long-term co-founder is crucial and must be done consciously. So how do you do it? In the latest episode of The Early Stages Podcast by APX, host Søren talks to his guests about shared values and enthusiasm — and why founders can learn a thing or two from Love Island. — In the second episode of the season, Søren is joined by Jörg Rheinboldt, Managing Director at APX, as co-host. Their guests are Ivan Tan, co-founder of Humant Life, and Darren Murphy, Associate Director at Antler.